Which parts of Navision used to be an add-on's

zeninoleg · 2007-02-02

I was thinking about the Dimensions and it looks to me that it might have been an addon before. Anyone knows?
Somebody said befre taht Job Scheduler used to be an add-on.

Some parts of Navision look like something foreign....

Marije_Brummel · 2007-02-02

Yes, some parts used to be add-ons.

AFAK CRM used to be one and service.

Before dimensions were introduces, the Belgian database had a dimension module that supported 9 dimensions.

ara3n · 2007-02-02

warehouse management was built by Lanham.

Manufacturing was also an addon but am not positive.

David_Singleton · 2007-02-02

There are two rumors about Dimensions, but not sure which is true,
a/ Is that someone wrote them to compete with how Concorde and Axapta handle dimensions,
b/ It evolved from an Add-On but evolved a little too much. Clearly the concept is so alien to Navision, that its unlikely to have derived from the BAD team.

As to other parts:

1/ I think Jobs was an Add-On, but never could get to the bottom of it.
2/ Contact management (Formerly the add on known as Marketing Manager)
3/ Fixed Assets (originally an AS400 application).
4/ Manufacturing (created by merging two completing add-ons, a Danish one and a German one. More of the Danish Add-On made it into Navision though).
5/ Warehouse. (Formerly Lanhams Advanced Distribution).
6/ Payroll, depends on the country.
7/ Service. (But not sure where the original Add-On came from).
8/ Job scheduler was a granule of the Service Add-On. Which is why it is a part of that menu and granule.
9/ Navigate - an important one. Many people think it was part of the original Navision, but it was actually designed by a Swiss End User, and developed by their NSC. The NTR demoed it to NTRs in other countries, and everyone wanted it in the Base App ASAP.

Then there is a ton of other little stuff. Like Stock Manger, which was an Inventory costing system that broke the Item ledger into two separate tables, one for the physical movement, and the second to track the Cost. Conceptually the same though implemented differently to Value Entries.

David_Singleton · 2007-02-02

Guys its Friday night, shouldn't we be doing something else.

Marije_Brummel · 2007-02-02

I am mentaly preparing myself to have lunch with Denster tomorrow and to go to Plopsaland next sunday with Waldo.

www.plopsaland.be

ara3n · 2007-02-02

Is Denster that demanding, mentally?
I met him last year, and didn't think that was the case.

Marije_Brummel · 2007-02-02

I will let you know after this weekend.

pdj · 2007-02-03

David Singleton wrote:

2/ Contact management (Formerly the add on known as Marketing Manager)

I guess you are right, but this module was completely replaced by Relationship Mgt. in version 3.0. This was made from scratch for version 3.0.

edit:

David Singleton wrote:

...unlikely to have derived from the BAD team.

Who/what is that? Badass Application Developers? 8)

DenSter · 2007-02-03

ara3n wrote:

Is Denster that demanding, mentally?
I met him last year, and didn't think that was the case.

Funny har har

Miklos_Hollender · 2007-02-04

Wow, if so many things came from add-ons then the first versions of Navision really must have been just a development environment + a G/L

It's weird to imagine Navision without Dimensions - what use it was then if it couldn't even tell sales by departments? Or Department and Project were hardcoded?

Miklos_Hollender · 2007-02-04

7/ Service

Rumour is that Navision A/S built it themselves for a small service-oriented company - four service engineers and twelve service contracts or something like that.

pdj · 2007-02-04

Miklos Hollender wrote:

Or Department and Project were hardcoded?

Exactly - just two simple tables.

DenSter · 2007-02-05

Miklos Hollender wrote:

7/ Service

Rumour is that Navision A/S built it themselves for a small service-oriented company - four service engineers and twelve service contracts or something like that.

I believe Navision started service and changed their minds, then a couple of guys took the idea, left Navision and developed the service module themselves, then a while later Navision incorporated the functionality.

Alex_Chow · 2007-02-05

I know for a fact that the Unapply Cash Receipt function was an addon.

Does the companies that created the addon gets reimbursed if MSFT decide it was going to be part of the standard release?

zeninoleg · 2007-02-09

Does the companies that created the addon gets reimbursed if MSFT decide it was going to be part of the standard release?

I have the same questions myself. i think that they should be because they spent their time and effor to do it and now they cannot even sell it! However they might be getting percentage of the cost of the granule. .... from another side what id it is something like Navigate?
:sick: I got myself confused!

Alex_Chow · 2007-02-09

If I was Microsoft, I wouldn't reimburse a single cent.

The logic would be that the solution center had made their money already before the standard release.

Of course, the solution center can still opt to sell it.

zeninoleg · 2007-02-09

If I was Microsoft, I wouldn't reimburse a single cent.

And waht if you were an owner of solutions center which developed this software.

You have spent XXXXXX dollars in salaries of the developers and analysts and now somebody else sells your solution.
Moreover, software is intellectual property and cannot be replicated.

Alex_Chow · 2007-02-09

Sorry to disappoint you, but whatever you developed in Navision belongs to Microsoft, as stated on the Partner agreement.

DenSter · 2007-02-10

As weird and unfair as that sounds, it is indeed true. MSFT owns everything we do

ara3n · 2007-02-10

From now on, if anybody finds bugs in my code, (not that there are any)

I'll just say, this is not my code.

Alex_Chow · 2007-02-10

ara3n wrote:

From now on, if anybody finds bugs in my code, (not that there are any)

I'll just say, this is not my code.

Oh my god... I never new ara3n was a comedian! This has got to be the quote of the month.

ssingla · 2007-02-11

Alex Wrote

Sorry to disappoint you, but whatever you developed in Navision belongs to Microsoft, as stated on the Partner agreement.

Is it True :shock: :shock: [/b]

Miklos_Hollender · 2007-02-12

In theory they own everything, I practice I don't think they would risk bad PR from grabbing something without negotiating some price for it. After all it doesn't even need to be cash - for a fat discount on licence sales in the next 2 years I'd happy to give over everything I've ever done because licence price is still the worst problem from a sales viewpoint I think even though the new licencing policy helps.

p.willemse6 · 2007-03-12

How about the employee portal, used to be a german solution...

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