How to upgrade NAV5.0 or NAV5.1 to NAV2009?

mootsoo
mootsoo Member Posts: 70
edited 2009-02-18 in NAV/Navision Classic Client
Hello
I need to upgrade the database that in NAV5.0 to NAV2009.
But i don't know how.
And it needs toolkit? if needs, then where i can found it?
bye my work, bye navision

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  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    1. Make a copy of database
    2. Create superuser with blank password /without password?/
    3. Make backup of the entire database
    4. Test objects except table and fields relation
    5. Test tables
    6. Install NAV2009
    7. Create database in NAV2009 that is twice the size of old DB
    8. Restore backup /did till here/
    9. Delete all forms and reports codeunits... but not tables /why? and also i don't have permission/
    10. Import Worksheet window, then Replace all / what is the Import Worksheet window/
    11. Compile all objects in the new DB /each by each?/
    12.....
    bye my work, bye navision
  • RawHeat
    RawHeat Member Posts: 63
    You do not know what an import worksheet is... is this one of your question?
  • RawHeat
    RawHeat Member Posts: 63
    it is the worksheet that comes when you import fob. here you can opt if you want to replace skip or merge the fobs u are importing
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    hi
    thanks for replying. what is the opt?
    bye my work, bye navision
  • RawHeat
    RawHeat Member Posts: 63
    Opt means choose. you can choose the way you wish to import the object. do you want to merge, replace, skip etc
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    aan okay.
    And also i have more question. Why it needs to delete the objects, and create again?
    In "Upgrade Guide" : <Delete all forms , reports , dataports and codeunits from the database but NOT the tables>
    This step needs only in when i'm creating new objects? or i must create all forms, reports, dataports and codeunits again, for NAV2009?

    Best Regards
    bye my work, bye navision
  • RawHeat
    RawHeat Member Posts: 63
    any upgrade process in short is a three step process.
    1. upgrade objects.
    2. upgrade data
    3. combine both objects and data.

    to upgrade data from nav 4 to nav9. open db of nav 4 in nav 09. upgrade data using local obj.s. then delete all the objects except tables. thus you have completed 2nd step. you have upgraded data.so you delete reset of the object types.
  • DenSter
    DenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    RawHeat wrote:
    any upgrade process in short is a three step process.
    1. upgrade objects.
    2. upgrade data
    3. combine both objects and data.

    to upgrade data from nav 4 to nav9. open db of nav 4 in nav 09. upgrade data using local obj.s. then delete all the objects except tables. thus you have completed 2nd step. you have upgraded data.so you delete reset of the object types.
    :shock: WOW
    This doesn't even get you close to completing your upgrade....
    Daniel Rimmelzwaan
    RIS Plus, LLC
  • RawHeat
    RawHeat Member Posts: 63
    i never said this is all what we have to do for migration.

    i just explained in a very short way, how an upgrade is done.

    and i don't think that i gave Mr.Mootsoo any wrong direction.
  • DenSter
    DenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    RawHeat wrote:
    2. upgrade data

    to upgrade data from nav 4 to nav9. open db of nav 4 in nav 09. upgrade data using local obj.s. then delete all the objects except tables. thus you have completed 2nd step. you have upgraded data.
    You are telling him that this is all you need to do to upgrade the data. You don't think this is wrong? :-k
    Daniel Rimmelzwaan
    RIS Plus, LLC
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    RawHeat wrote:
    any upgrade process in short is a three step process.
    1. upgrade objects.
    2. upgrade data
    3. combine both objects and data.

    to upgrade data from nav 4 to nav9. open db of nav 4 in nav 09. upgrade data using local obj.s. then delete all the objects except tables. thus you have completed 2nd step. you have upgraded data.so you delete reset of the object types.
    :shock: wow thanks. it looks so simple and clear. but i don't understand one thing. how to upgrade object. i'm new at this system.
    every people saying that upgrade object. but i don't know how?
    bye my work, bye navision
  • kine
    kine Member Posts: 12,562
    If you do not know how, read the upgrade toolkit documentation (e.g. for older versions), ask your senior co-worker etc. because upgrading objects is not job for beginners (or it is good for learning, but there must be some supervisor who will check your process and who will guide you...)
    Kamil Sacek
    MVP - Dynamics NAV
    My BLOG
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  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    kine wrote:
    If you do not know how, read the upgrade toolkit documentation (e.g. for older versions), ask your senior co-worker etc. because upgrading objects is not job for beginners (or it is good for learning, but there must be some supervisor who will check your process and who will guide you...)
    Thanks! That's very very good advice.
    But i don't have a senior worker. I'm doing only by my oneself.
    Or my seniors are only in this forum. Mibuso's members are my seniors. For that maybe i'm always asking many mixed questions.
    And also i'm very appreciate this forum. And members, administrators & MVPs.

    I need, I really really need direction, advice of experienced developers.

    Thank you very much!
    I will very appreciate any word from any of you.
    bye my work, bye navision
  • RawHeat
    RawHeat Member Posts: 63
    Migration of database from one version to another is a responsible task.

    The three steps that i mentioned was just a very very brief idea about upgradation procedure.

    But it is very important to understand Navision and its basic features, the flow of db u re converting etc b4 starting mig. procedure.

    You should read and understand the pdf files for migration and Developer's toolkit very well.

    Nothing [-X is as tough as it looks. [-X [-X

    all the best :wink::wink:
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    Ok tnx!
    But one thing - how to upgrade object? 4.0 to 5.0 or 5.0 to NAV2009. Each by each?
    And also i have read that upgrader toolkit to NAV2009 is not available now? is it true?
    Then when it's gonna be available?
    bye my work, bye navision
  • ara3n
    ara3n Member Posts: 9,258
    You compare and move the modification in from 4.0 to 2009.
    The upgrade toolkit is available in partnersource on 2009 download page.

    https://mbs.microsoft.com/partnersource ... AV2009.htm
    Ahmed Rashed Amini
    Independent Consultant/Developer


    blog: https://dynamicsuser.net/nav/b/ara3n
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    Ooh tnx. I'm partner from yesterday.
    Compare? Comparing database? it's also using tool?
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  • ara3n
    ara3n Member Posts: 9,258
    you need to identify all the modification you have done in 4.0 and move them or redo them in 2009.

    I don't understand what you mean partner from yesterday.
    Ahmed Rashed Amini
    Independent Consultant/Developer


    blog: https://dynamicsuser.net/nav/b/ara3n
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    ara3n wrote:
    you need to identify all the modification you have done in 4.0 and move them or redo them in 2009.

    I don't understand what you mean partner from yesterday.

    Maybe my question is not clear.
    If i have did something new object in my 4.0. Then i must export those object. Then i should import all that exported object NAV2009?
    If it's true then there wouldn't be any conflict with that 2 version?
    Now is that my question is ok? or am asking wrong?
    bye my work, bye navision
  • mootsoo
    mootsoo Member Posts: 70
    https://mbs.microsoft.com/partnersource ... AV2009.htm from this link it's downloading not any toolkit. just one text file. ? :?: :?:
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  • ara3n
    ara3n Member Posts: 9,258
    mootsoo wrote:
    ara3n wrote:
    you need to identify all the modification you have done in 4.0 and move them or redo them in 2009.

    I don't understand what you mean partner from yesterday.

    Maybe my question is not clear.
    If i have did something new object in my 4.0. Then i must export those object. Then i should import all that exported object NAV2009?
    If it's true then there wouldn't be any conflict with that 2 version?
    Now is that my question is ok? or am asking wrong?


    A new object in 50000 range, yes you can export them out of 4.0 and import them into 2009. If it's existing MS object, then you need to move/redo the modification in 2009. After you've moved all the code changes, then you use the upgrade toolkit and upgrade the data.
    Ahmed Rashed Amini
    Independent Consultant/Developer


    blog: https://dynamicsuser.net/nav/b/ara3n

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