Migrate from Nav 2009 onsite to Nav 2015 on the cloud

CarlesTA

Hi everyone!

I would like to ask some questions about our scenario, according with your experience and be able to know if the cloud would became risky or usefull for us.

We are using Dynamics Nav 2009 RTC on premise. Now we would like to upgrade nav to 2015 and move our installation to the cloud.

Here are the questions:

Move to the cloud means a new License ID ?
If true, this licence will belong to our company (with our company name) or will the partner name be displayed in the license menu ?
Now with Nav 2009 we have the development granule and we can develop / modify navision. Is Nav 2015 in the cloud ready to be developed ? Will we need an extra granule on the cloud to modify navision ?

We would like to rent an Azure VM (A2 for exemple) and rent also user licences to microsoft, with a monthly fee. Is that correct ? the way it works ?

Onsite licence (nav 2009 ) is provided with an another partner solution (7.000.000 granule) still working onsite and we can edit this solution because we've development licence, but not the partner witch is not allowed to read/modify this objectes (related with another partner development). will this work and have user permision to run on the cloud if we have a new client ID ? or will need to buy or ask for a personalized granule ?

The parner told us that there is not clear if we will have access to the Azure VM and also to the SQL Server Management Studio. We need to access to SQL Server from our excel, (using odbc) because we have some Views (in sql server) linked to local excel. Is that possible with the cloud ? (will need to connect to Azure VM , access to SQL Server Management Studio , create local users with Read Only to provide access from excel (local) to SQL Server (cloud) using odbc



It will be really usefull if some of you can help with this issues

thanks


Carles

bbrown

The basic answer to all of your questions is: "It Depends".

It depends on what sort of Cloud solution agreement you are talking about and the details of that agreement. These can range from a basic IaaS (Infrastructure as a Service) to PaaS (Platform as a Service) to a fully managed SaaS (Software as a Service) solutions. With lots of variations.

With IaaS you are typically paying to "rent" virtual machines in the Cloud. They become an extension of your local environment. What you can do all depends on how you build things out. You would typically transfer your current NAV license. So, in terms of NAV, you could likely do everything you do know.

CarlesTA

bbrown wrote:

The basic answer to all of your questions is: "It Depends".

It depends on what sort of Cloud solution agreement you are talking about and the details of that agreement. These can range from a basic IaaS (Infrastructure as a Service) to PaaS (Platform as a Service) to a fully managed SaaS (Software as a Service) solutions. With lots of variations.

With IaaS you are typically paying to "rent" virtual machines in the Cloud. They become an extension of your local environment. What you can do all depends on how you build things out. You would typically transfer your current NAV license. So, in terms of NAV, you could likely do everything you do know.

Hi bbrown, thanks for your fast reply.
We want to to to Azure in an Individual VM, have our own server and our own SQL Server, (related with SQL Server CAL user licenced granule)
Renting navision, seems much more cheaper than buying it and also the amount you pay for rent is lower than the annual BREP price
so my questions then, are related to cancel an onsite licence and buy a new one on the cloud in rent mode.

bbrown

You can't simply move a Microsoft license to Azure jus because you own it. The license must have "license mobility" rights. That right comes from the purchase of "Software Assurance", but is not available with all products. My understanding in terms of SQL Server is that only core-based licensing is allowed on Azure. You can't move server/cal licensing.

In terms of the NAV license cost, you should speak with your reseller.

brunelli

I agree with bbrown.. It depends

When your NAV license is under an active Ehnahcement Plan, you have the mobility rights an can use your existing license on azure. This and many more interesting information about NAV on Azure can be found on the white paper, dated Februrary 2014 http://www.stcnet.ch/content/files/images/STC/Geschaeftsloesungen/ERP/microsoft-dynamics-nav-2013-R2-windows-azure.pdf

CarlesTA

brunelli wrote:

I agree with bbrown.. It depends

When your NAV license is under an active Ehnahcement Plan, you have the mobility rights an can use your existing license on azure. This and many more interesting information about NAV on Azure can be found on the white paper, dated Februrary 2014 http://www.stcnet.ch/content/files/images/STC/Geschaeftsloesungen/ERP/microsoft-dynamics-nav-2013-R2-windows-azure.pdf

bruelli, thanks a lot! i'll check the white paper
Carles