Navision Chart Example v2

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Navision Chart Example
It´s easy to display a .Net control in a Navision form. Here is an example of a chart control ("OWC10.ChartSpace.10"). You can use the functions to change the chart, or to change the values it shows.

http://www.mibuso.com/dlinfo.asp?FileID=481

Discuss this download here.

SteveO

How did you do that???
Source code please

andreof

not yet [-X ...maybe later

aohlfsen

.Net control you say.

Looks like a win32 dll to me.

Nice anyway.

andreof

well...yes it´s a dll, but what it does is draw the .Net control on the form

Administrator

Navision Chart Example
It´s easy to display a .Net control in a Navision form. Here is an example of a chart control ("OWC10.ChartSpace.10"). You can use the functions to change the chart, or to change the values it shows.

04/05/2005:
The download of this example has been removed, due to a possible Copyright violation.

http://www.mibuso.com/dlinfo.asp?FileID=481

Discuss this download here.

andreof

What?!? :-s

Luc_VanDyck

I have been contacted by a MBS partner to remove this download, as it apparently contains some copyrighted material. You should have received an e-mail from them as well. So until this is resolved, the download stays blocked.

andreof

I receveid a mail from them, and i have already responded and sended one for you too. I feel completely outraged how can they say something like that? I'm demandind clarification and apologies, because you have called me a cheat

Luc_VanDyck

I never called you a cheat. And I have changed the description to
"The download of this example has been removed, due to a possible Copyright violation.".

As said before: until this is resolved, the download stays blocked.

andreof

well the whole thing it's about being a cheat or not, that's what i meant. I hope the clarification comes soon

andreof

what hapenned was that i used their form and sub-form to host my project. I renumbered the forms, cleaned all variables and code. But there was a text contant that remained!!! How can they call me a cheat for that? Please clarify everything here and unblock my download.

andreof

will this download ever be unblocked again?

And the reasons why it´s blocked will they ever pop-up?

andreof

a lot of people have asked me to send the example by email but i would prefer to use mibuso...

janpieter

People that do have interest in this product can have a look at where THIS product 'stole' its IDEAS from at :

http://www.mibuso.com/dlinfo.asp?FileID=333

Wheter this product is legal or not, does not bother me. I do think it is not verry nice to copy an IDEA almost 1:1. Its just a thing you dont do.

Andre, i do not know how you can get pride out of a stolen concept. You know the embedding thechnique, you must be a good programmer. I therfore think you must be able to make a product that is different from our initial concept.

You must like the idea of charting otherwise you wouldn't recreate (and partly copy) it for yourself. So give the people that work hard to invent products some respect and buy the product. Like said, apart from legal issues, its just a thing you don't do.

andreof

Mr, I just don't understand. So the past mibuso posts cannot be used by others? if you do use, we are stoling from someone? are you crazy? I lost a lot of months trying to do what i did. I didn't use a single line of code that belongs to you or your company. I used that mibuso post, that's true, and a LOT of research in the web. And i'm very proud of what i did. So please tell me were did i go wrong!!! You have put one or two ideas in a thread and i tried to follow them on my one. So you think no one else can try and put .Net controls in a navision form? using visual studio? Is it copyrighted? And i thought this things only happened in the movies...

janpieter

Its not that, its just that the end products are so simular. And like said apart from all legal issues making exact simular products is not a nice thing to do.

You then do not really respect another ones work.

You have a habbit of twisting persons words. I have no opinion if your product has a legal issue. I just say it is not the way to go.

There are hundreds of controls in windows so there are plenty of oppertunities to make your own product by embedding them into navision.

andreof

First you dont know me and i dont know you, so you dont know my habbits, like i don't know yours.

Second if i ever offended anyone, and i think not, i apologise.

I Have the same respect that everyone has for other people's work.

"There are hundreds of controls in windows so there are plenty of oppertunities to make your own product by embedding them into navision"

I have embedded other controls, and have already sent them to mibuso (dont know why they do not apear), like i have embedded Microsoft, not Logic Vision, "OWC10.ChartSpace.10" control. So now the problem is the control?

I haven't follow any scrip, haven't copied any code, just followed one idea.
And ideas like that apear in mibuso hundreds every day. It's the whole spirit of mibuso (nice sentence ).

aohlfsen

Landsteinar has been using embedded controls similar to yours for years.

Don't know if it's implemented the same way, but the concept looks the same.

They just don't advertise it because it's a small integrated part of a bigger context.

So the idea really isn't that new, allthough I do trust, that it's not that easy to implement.

Administrator

Navision Chart Example
It´s easy to display a .Net control in a Navision form. Here is an example of a chart control ("OWC10.ChartSpace.10"). You can use the functions to change the chart, or to change the values it shows.

04/05/2005:
The download of this example has been removed, due to a possible Copyright violation.

11/05/2005:
The download has been restored.

http://www.mibuso.com/dlinfo.asp?FileID=481

Discuss this download here.

sc00by

Hi André,

I'm not sure why people are "Preaching" about you creating a similar application to other commercially available products, but I for one, think that your work and motives are TOTALLY within the spirit of MIBUSO and knowledge sharing =D>

Thanks for sharing your hard work - Well done!



Rob.

SteveO

Yes, I have to agree.

Following the logic of others, there should only be 1 program for sending emails (cause any other programs would be stealing the idea from the original), only 1 program for viewing web pages (cause any other programs stole the idea)

Andre may have tackled the same problem that other people chose to tackle, but came up with his own solution to that problem. So that makes it original.


=D>

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Navision Chart Example v2
It´s easy to display a .Net control in a Navision form. Here is an example of a chart control ("OWC10.ChartSpace.10"). You can use the functions to change the chart, or to change the values it shows.

New:
- Has no column restrictions

http://www.mibuso.com/dlinfo.asp?FileID=481

Discuss this download here.

sc00by

Hi Andre,

I've loaded the ChartExample into my local version of Navsion and I can see the Command Button has been setup to demonstrate the various chart types and label display.

In the C/AL Symbol Menu, there are lots of "Methods" showing like "TurnChart" etc. I'm sure nobody but the author knows exactly how to utilse these . . . can you give a guide on what all of these do and how they should be used please? [-o<

Best Regards,

Rob.

andreof

You're right, sorry O:)


SelectProjection(Type): ProjectionMode Orthographic (0)
ProjectionMode Perspective (1)


ExportChart(): Creates a gif file, named fig.gif, with the chart


TurnChart(Value): Rotates the chart the number of degrees you ask for


Regards,

André

guidorobben

Has no column restrictions

Your example still has 3 values and I cannot add more. Am I doing something wrong?


oepsss ](*,), forgot to register the new dll..

Guido

eromein

Although I fully understand both your and janpieters arguments it's good to see this download is back online.

Seems like you pulled the longest straw

I haven't downloaded it yet, but it's seems to be a very nice download.

andreof

Thank you, i'm glad this all turn out ok [-o<

janpieter

Ok; it seems that the problem is not really understood here.

I compare this product as when you invent a chair and someone else builds the same chair with a different color.

When you take a closer look:

1. Navision objects are copied and renamed
This may not seem like a big deal, but it is. When you take a closer look to the container form there is a text box in it. Like said looks like not a big deal but try removing this text box and you'll see that it makes a big difference. Same is true for the ActivateMe function. The navision objects took us weeks to discover which is the best configuration for embedding controls to work flawlesly and error free. It takes 5 minutes to copy these, rename these and take copyright information out of it.

2. ActiveX interfaces are quite simular but have other names
Didn't really go through all of this but the basic interface looks the same. So the project approach is the same. Takes weeks to work out an efficient way, in much less time you use an excisting aproach.

The e-mail program example
* is ok but i havent seen verry simular e-mail products (its not technollogy i talk about). One e-mail has a cool search feature the other program a cool skinning future. They are all different.

The spirit of mibuso:
* i think it is ok to share knowledge and i'm happy to share (most of) mine. And i have taken a lot of advantage of knowledge of other people.
Though when companys do large investments in creating products and make it commercial available to contribute the navision world and to cover expensives in my opinion it is not ok (maybe legally it is .. but its my opinion) to make an almost exact rebuild of this product. The big downside is that the developer of the original product might not be getting budgets for new projects because money is lost on those projects. I was hoping to releas Embedded Controls 2.0 soon with an Embedded GanttChart control in it (really cool) but i hope they will still let me do this. My trust is a little bit gone so i'm surely going to work on security now for the OCX so that it is not this easally copied. (really hate that).

andreof

This is my final post about this matter:

I HAVEN'T COPIED YOUR OCX

bye

janpieter

please read my post and state where i hav said that .. ?