NAV 2009 RTC v Classic

gforce4678

Hello All

we are being advised that we should move from a nav 2009 classic install to Nav 2009 RTC installation, we were just wondering what the major differences would be, the main thing we want t know is that on classic we can modify certain code to manipulate data and reporting and from what i have been lead to belief this cannot be done at present in RTC.

Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated

many thanks

Mark

mohana_cse06

gforce4678 wrote:

we are being advised that we should move from a nav 2009 classic install to Nav 2009 RTC installation, we were just wondering what the major differences would be

Benefits of RTC are

gforce4678 wrote:

the main thing we want t know is that on classic we can modify certain code to manipulate data and reporting and from what i have been lead to belief this cannot be done at present in RTC.
Mark

Last point in the above image..

Andwian

gforce4678 wrote:

what the major differences would be

1. Sleek GUI
2. Ability to send notification to other users.
3. Graphical Reporting
4. 3-tier architecture, ensure the client will not require large resource
5. Treemap & Timeline Inventory Control
6. Graphical Cart
7. Search Engine for pages (forms).
8. Report Save as PDF and Excel
9. etc.

jglathe

Hello,

from what I've seen, I'd say don't try to fix what's not broken. I am "designing" some reports which must run on both CC and RTC, and it's a major PITA. IMO, from the end-user point of view the customization gets nearly impossible to do. The process is non-intuitive, and you have to cope with visul studio for RDLC report design. And BTW, it's slower. If I wouldn't have to develop for it, I would avoid it like hell.

with best regards

Jens

Tommy_Schou

gforce4678 wrote:

Hello All

we are being advised that we should move from a nav 2009 classic install to Nav 2009 RTC installation, we were just wondering what the major differences would be, the main thing we want t know is that on classic we can modify certain code to manipulate data and reporting and from what i have been lead to belief this cannot be done at present in RTC.

Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated

many thanks

Mark

There are performance advantages in the RTC. At least in theory the 3-tier should be better on large scale installations. But if you are running CC today and it's running on adequate hardware I think you will notice a performance decrease (with regards to the user interface response times at least) and while you can certainly customize pages on the RTC as Jens said you cannot expect a normal super user to be able to change a RTC report while that is entirely possible in the CC.

From a developer standpoint the RTC has been nothing but trouble so far. It's buggy and slow and a PITA. I am sure it will get better and I am also sure that for certain types of installations the RTC is way better than the CC. I just do not work with installations where the RTC is preferable.

Looking to the future the choice is clear. RTC is the way forward as MS is moving away from the CC in time.

julkifli33

another thing is.....
for NAV 7 , there will be no classic anymore
so you guys must be familiar in RTC

Alex_Chow

julkifli33 wrote:

another thing is.....
for NAV 7 , there will be no classic anymore
so you guys must be familiar in RTC

That's assuming you want to upgrade. We still have clients using 2.0.

Andwian

Alex Chow wrote:

That's assuming you want to upgrade. We still have clients using 2.0.

And unfortunately, MSFT will only support 2 recent version. And currently only NAV 5 upward.

julkifli33

Alex Chow wrote:

julkifli33 wrote:

another thing is.....
for NAV 7 , there will be no classic anymore
so you guys must be familiar in RTC

That's assuming you want to upgrade. We still have clients using 2.0.

2.0?
what do you mean 2.0?

Andwian

"julkifli33 wrote:

what do you mean 2.0?

Navision 2.0 I guess..

Tommy_Schou

Fastest, bestest, most stable release of Navision to date = Financials 2.60 .

jglathe

Right. 3.70B is also not bad...

Chemanel

Yeah.. In future version, you can forgot about Classic interface... And it will be based on .NET Framework no ? So you would be able to code your pages, reports, etc. In C# no ?

Alex_Chow

jglathe wrote:

Right. 3.70B is also not bad...

3.7B was already pretty bloated. Navision 2.0c was, in my opinion, the best version ever released. It is incredibly fast!

julkifli33

RTC should run in domain?
or we can run it in workgroup ?

mohana_cse06

RTC works with Windows Authentication only..

julkifli33

then workgroup doesn't work for RTC

Alex_Chow

julkifli33 wrote:

then workgroup doesn't work for RTC

It will, but your SQL permission have to allow Guests to login.

sendit2jason

Alex Chow wrote:

jglathe wrote:

Right. 3.70B is also not bad...

3.7B was already pretty bloated. Navision 2.0c was, in my opinion, the best version ever released. It is incredibly fast!

Totally agree! version 2.x had the least issues and was pretty quick. It still works on a Windows 7 box.....strangely version 3.xx doesn't!?

:roll:

julkifli33

sendit2jason wrote:

Alex Chow wrote:

jglathe wrote:

Right. 3.70B is also not bad...

3.7B was already pretty bloated. Navision 2.0c was, in my opinion, the best version ever released. It is incredibly fast!

Totally agree! version 2.x had the least issues and was pretty quick. It still works on a Windows 7 box.....strangely version 3.xx doesn't!?

:roll:

how about compare version 2.xx and RTC ??