Certification of sales invoices in Portugal from 2011 on

sre

Hi all,

we've got an issue here and as I couldn't find any information on partnersource I thought I might give you a chance to share your knowledge.

I just received the information that in Portugal there's a regulation (Portaria n.º 363/2010) which urges companies to create a unique key for all invoices, use a RSA algorithm to encrypt it and print a part of the key on the sales invoice. All business software that's used needs a certification from the Portuguese tax authorities.

Anyone from Portugal here who's an expert in tax regulations? Would it be right to expect Microsoft to provide a solution for that (as it should effect everyone using Dynamics NAV in Portugal)? From my perspective it's like the adaption of VAT rates etc. where the software manufacturer provides solutions as well. I know that e.g. SAP is working on a solution already. Any experiences, information or recommendations?

Thanks in advance
Sascha

P.S.: I didn't focus to much on the technical solution as I don't want to implement that myself if possible ;-)
P.P.S.: Furhter reading (Portuguese only)
http://invisibleflamelight.wordpress.co ... -facturao/
http://www.assoft.pt/lib/startDownload. ... ize=183670

Tito_Tavares

Hi Sascha,

Microsoft Portugal is, as long as other software houses, developing a solution for this issue.
The solution will be available freely to every Dynamics customer who has software in support. The release will be available around December maybe!

Best regards,
Tito Tavares

sre

Tito Tavares wrote:

Microsoft Portugal is, as long as other software houses, developing a solution for this issue.

Hi Tito,

that definetly sounds good to me. Do you have any source or link for that statement from Microsoft (e.g. partnersource)? Would make me feel much more secure ;-)

Thanks
Sascha

NixPt

ERP Legal Certification for Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2009 SP1 - Portugal
https://mbs.microsoft.com/partnersource/downloads/taxupdates/MSD_NAV2009ERPLegalCertificationPortugal

ERP Legal Certification for Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0 SP1 - Portugal
https://mbs.microsoft.com/partnersource/support/selfsupport/taxupdates/MSD_NAV5ERPLegalCertificationPortugal

sre

NixPt wrote:

ERP Legal Certification for Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2009 SP1 - Portugal

Thanks for leting me know that this is available now ... I hope it's not too difficult to adapt that to our highly customized application :-)

Sascha

NixPt

I dont think so, most are new fields on the base tables....

But well good luck...

sre

NixPt wrote:

ERP Legal Certification for Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2009 SP1 - Portugal

Thanks for that, we've been able to adapt our application accordingly. One last thing we can't solve currently: The software certificate number will be printed on all sales invoices as “Processado por programa certificado nº ###” (“Processed by certified program no. ###”) but we don't know Microsofts certification number.

In the whitepaper it says "Enter the certificate number assigned to the software producer. If not applicable, enter “0” (zero). You can enter a maximum of 20 characters." My quesion is: Do you know where to get this number from? I couldn't find it included in the download above and I can't find it on partnersource either.

Any idea?

Thanks
Sascha

Kc_Nirvana

Software Vendor VAT - 502586745
Soft. Certificate Number - 494

sre

Kc_Nirvana wrote:

Software Vendor VAT ...

Thanks!!!

Due to curiosity: Where can this information normaly be obtained and verified?

Kc_Nirvana

ERP Legal Certification for Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2009 SP1 - Portugal
https://mbs.microsoft.com/partnersource ... onPortugal, https://mbs.microsoft.com/customersourc ... onPortugal

ERP Legal Certification for Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0 SP1 - Portugal
https://mbs.microsoft.com/partnersource ... onPortugal, https://mbs.microsoft.com/customersourc ... onPortugal

On Soft. Certificate Number it's 494/DGCI.... i forgot the /DGCI

It's the VAT from the company (MSFT SOFTWARE PARA MICROCOMPUTADORES LDA) who certified Dynamics NAV as you can see in http://www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt/pt/ ... &pagina=25

sre

That link to http://www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt is just perfect, thanks.

Sorry to bother you again but I've got (hopefully) one last question, regarding this:

Kc_Nirvana wrote:

On Soft. Certificate Number it's 494/DGCI.... i forgot the /DGCI

Why DGCI? In the documentation I have it's written that the Certificate Number has to be printed on the invoice. In the list on the finance website above it's only "494"?! :-k

Thanks

Kc_Nirvana

Because the signature must have de short name of Direcção Geral dos Impostos (Directorate General of Taxes)....
Like it shows here: http://www.softwarecertificado.com/Defa ... target=407
It's Portugal......
It's stupid, suggests that portuguese people are thiefs.......
But what can i say?
It's my country.......

sre

Kc_Nirvana wrote:

It's Portugal......
It's stupid, suggests that portuguese people are thiefs.......
But what can i say?
It's my country.......

I won't comment on that ... I guess here in Germany it's not better - just different :-)
Anyway, I really appreciate your help. Now I've got all the answers I've been looking for. Thanks a lot!