Hardware Sizing Guide

ta5

Hello

Is there an official Hardware Sizing Guide for NAV 2009? I didn't find it on Partner Source. On the CD, in nav_install.chm only short information is given. Actually in the helpfile mentioned they just refer to the hardware requirements of the os and the db.

Thanks
Thomas

ara3n

I haven't seen it either. As far has the difference between 5.0 and 2009. You have a new service tier. Everything else would be the same.
For Service tier you'll need as many cpu as possible and and more than 4 gig of memory.

ta5

Hi Rashed
Thanks for the reply. Do you think such a whitepaper will be released in the near future? It's a bit strange to handout the one for 5.0 and say it's basically the same...

Regards
Thomas

David_Singleton

ta5 wrote:

Hi Rashed
Thanks for the reply. Do you think such a whitepaper will be released in the near future? It's a bit strange to handout the one for 5.0 and say it's basically the same...

Regards
Thomas

Take a look at how much damage was created by the sizing guide released for servers some years back. At the risk of creating a disaster like that again, it's surely better to not release anything till they are sure.

ta5

Ok, no problem, I was just wondering...

themave

David Singleton wrote:

ta5 wrote:

Hi Rashed
Thanks for the reply. Do you think such a whitepaper will be released in the near future? It's a bit strange to handout the one for 5.0 and say it's basically the same...

Regards
Thomas

Take a look at how much damage was created by the sizing guide released for servers some years back. At the risk of creating a disaster like that again, it's surely better to not release anything till they are sure.

since it is released, don't you think they should be sure already ?

JohnCon

a sizing guide white paper for nav 2009 has been released. I am not sure how to attach it to this post, or if i can upload it somewhere.

ara3n

you can post a link to it.

ta5

I think it has been announced for March in the "Microsoft Dynamics NAV U.S. Partner News: February 2009" newsletter earlier this week.

Thomas

ta5

Did someone find it by today?
My problem is how to determine the sizing for the nst. I guess, one dedicated server for SQL Server and at least one dedicated server for the nst. But the question is the sizing of the nst server and how many users per nst server.
Any info (either documents or knowledge from existing solutions) will be appreciated.
Thanks much.
Thomas

clausl

You can find it here: https://mbs.microsoft.com/downloads/partner/nav/whitepapers/PerformanceGuideforMicrosoftDynamicsNAV.pdf

Regards,
Claus

ta5

clausl wrote:

You can find it here: https://mbs.microsoft.com/downloads/partner/nav/whitepapers/PerformanceGuideforMicrosoftDynamicsNAV.pdf

Regards,
Claus

Thanks!
Based on this, can somebody share his/her experience in real world installations for example for 100 users? Additional question: With shared hardware, is there a benefit of using 2 nst and the sql server on the same machine vs. using 1 nst and the sql server on the same machine?

Thanks in advance
Thomas

David_Singleton

ta5 wrote:

clausl wrote:

You can find it here: https://mbs.microsoft.com/downloads/partner/nav/whitepapers/PerformanceGuideforMicrosoftDynamicsNAV.pdf

Regards,
Claus

Thanks!
Based on this, can somebody share his/her experience in real world installations for example for 100 users? Additional question: With shared hardware, is there a benefit of using 2 nst and the sql server on the same machine vs. using 1 nst and the sql server on the same machine?

Thanks in advance
Thomas

In terms of multi purpose servers, are you planning this with Hyper-V or VMWare? I don;t know a lot about Hyper-V, but I gather it works a lot like VMWare, so the issue is going to be managing the resources correctly. Make sure you have plenty of CPUs and RAM available, and use a high end SAN and make sure you get someone that really understands Navision/SAN/SQL/VMWare, don't experiment. In terms of the NST, just a gut feeling, but I would go for more rather than less. There is no real cost difference, since your VMware or Hyper-V will be on (I guess) a CPU license model. Having more than one will give you better statistics and a better balancing ability.

Also think about fall over. If you have one huge box with everything on it, then you need an identically huge box for the fall over. But if you have multiple smaller boxes, fall over is much easier VMWare will know what resources are available, and move stuff around as needed in a failure, if one of many boxes fails.

frankiben123

wow....nice post.....
sales tracking software

ta5

Its not planned on virtual server, so we are not sure on how many dedicated servers will be needed.
Thanks
Thomas

David_Singleton

ta5 wrote:

Its not planned on virtual server, so we are not sure on how many dedicated servers will be needed.
Thanks
Thomas

So then you need one server dedicated to SQL, and then two for the Navision server (middle tier).

ta5

Thats what I was afraid of
Assuming that all on one server (SQL, NST for 100 Users) is a no go.

Not to mention with 3 machines it's going to be quite expensive, isnt't it?

Thomas

David_Singleton

Cost of hardware is generally a fairly trivial component of the total cost of ownership of any ERP system.

The client is going to pay a lot more for managing and supporting bad hardware than they could ever spend on buying the proper hardware from the beginning.

if you try to find shortcuts so that your client can pay less for hardware, then you are NOT doing them a good service.

ta5

Thanks for all your contributions. Very appreciated.
Thomas

infonote

Not sure if it is of any help but some related information may be available in the installation and configuration guide from Partnersource.

ta5 wrote:

Hello

Is there an official Hardware Sizing Guide for NAV 2009? I didn't find it on Partner Source. On the CD, in nav_install.chm only short information is given. Actually in the helpfile mentioned they just refer to the hardware requirements of the os and the db.

Thanks
Thomas