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PS III and Blue Ray

Joseph_Abou_NaderJoseph_Abou_Nader Member Posts: 150
edited 2007-04-09 in General Chat
For those who are interested...and have additional information.

As you know, the blue ray technology will be used for PS III DVDs...having a storage of 25 GB ( single ) and 50 GB ( Dual Layer ).

My question is that will these dvds be used for PC data storage...like having a dvd of 50 GB empty space...to save on it my pictures...or databases...or ....???

Comments.??

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  • SteveOSteveO Member Posts: 164
    Yes it will be possible to store any kind of data on the "next-gen" DVD's (BluRay and HD-DVD). It is basically the same as the transition from CD to DVD.

    As everyone knows CD are still in existance so I doubt there will be any great rush for these next-gen storage discs (apart from game developers and media vendors because of the extra detail that can be stored).
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  • Captain_DX4Captain_DX4 Member Posts: 230
    The BluRay has already started on the market in Canada. I've seen two players/recorders (for TV), in addition to the PS3. I should think it's not going to be long until we see the components for PC. I've yet to see any detailed specs if you can hook-up or network a PS3 to a PC, which could allow to use the device without buying a descrete component for the PC (which would be really nice).

    We distribute the PS3 in Canada, but I've yet to get my hands on one to play with to see what it can do and how it can network. They're still all heading out to the stores for holiday shoppers. *grrrr!*
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  • DenSterDenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    There's Blu-ray and also HD-DVD. I am not making any purchases until I can get a machine that plays both of them.
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  • Miklos_HollenderMiklos_Hollender Member Posts: 1,598
    The good thing about standards is that there are so many of them?
  • Captain_DX4Captain_DX4 Member Posts: 230
    DenSter wrote:
    There's Blu-ray and also HD-DVD. I am not making any purchases until I can get a machine that plays both of them.

    Then you'll probably be waiting a while (if ever). This is really a VHS/Beta war. I have a feeling that the BluRay will win, if only because it holds more/disk.
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  • ara3nara3n Member Posts: 9,256
    edited 2006-12-05
    well betamax was also a superior product, but didn't win the war.
    The whole war BR and HD-DVD is a pointless. It will take decades for people to accept them. The storage size isn't an issue, there are other material that people use for daily file transfer. So the only real reason for their existance is the Movies and Games, Which can be transfered over the web. Granted that is not that popular right now but in 2-5 years that will change.
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  • Captain_DX4Captain_DX4 Member Posts: 230
    Hrm... true enough. Microsoft is behind HD-DVD, and we all know what a good marketting juggernaut they are! Although Sony has a lot more companies backing BluRay. They learned since the days of MiniDisc. *hehe*
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  • David_SingletonDavid_Singleton Member Posts: 5,479
    ara3n wrote:
    well betamax was also a superior product, but didn't win the war.
    ...

    The Beta vs VHS issue had nothing to do with technology. The failure of Beta was 100% due to porn. Sony refused to license pornographic material on Beta format, so the Porn companies went to VHS instead, which killed Beta.

    I know there is no connection but I'll bet that this blue ray vs ps iii will go the same way.
    David Singleton
  • Captain_DX4Captain_DX4 Member Posts: 230
    BluRay ~is~ in PS3. It's the HD-DVD format that its against, and that's apparently going to start shipping for xBox-360 (I think?), so this is Sony vs. Microsoft. *hehe*
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  • Joseph_Abou_NaderJoseph_Abou_Nader Member Posts: 150
    Well...Microsoft has won many fights with many companies, but honestly, I don't think they will win in any way in the games industry...Sony has managed to go ahead by far...and PS III will make a huge difference in the graphics relating to games.
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  • Alex_ChowAlex_Chow Member Posts: 5,063
    There aren't any movies which that is 50GB yet, so judging based on the storage size is not that important right now.

    BluRay is proprietary technology from Sony. Whereas HD-DVD is not specifically to any company.

    And if Sony decides that they will not release porn titles on Blu Ray, then HD-DVD will most likely win out.
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  • ara3nara3n Member Posts: 9,256
    David Singleton wrote:
    ara3n wrote:
    well betamax was also a superior product, but didn't win the war.
    ...

    The Beta vs VHS issue had nothing to do with technology. The failure of Beta was 100% due to porn. Sony refused to license pornographic material on Beta format, so the Porn companies went to VHS instead, which killed Beta.

    I know there is no connection but I'll bet that this blue ray vs ps iii will go the same way.

    I know betamax lost because of nontechnical issues. I was simply giving a counter example that caption dx4 wrote about Blue ray being superior because of higher storage.
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  • David_SingletonDavid_Singleton Member Posts: 5,479
    Sorry, yes I see what you mean. :wink:
    David Singleton
  • Captain_DX4Captain_DX4 Member Posts: 230
    And really, everyone wants to store more porn/disc, right?? *lol*

    I think the BluRay technology was headed by Sony, but the technology is being backed by Sony, Philips, Matsushita (Panasonic), Pioneer, and Samsung (plus a few nameless others). I read a review of the first BluRay players published by Samsung and Panasonic. These seem very "first generation" (missing lots of features that the BluRay spec should be able to handle), but once the market becomes more competative, future models should handle all the bells-and-whistles. It appears the PS3 handles all the specs. I haven't seen any reviews of HD-DVD players yet.
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  • Miklos_HollenderMiklos_Hollender Member Posts: 1,598
    On the other hand there won't be many 50GB movies as long as the technology is not widespread. Remember the last years of the age of the Amiga computer when games were released on 6-10 floppy disks and gamers were swapping them like crazy at every second scene? That's exactly what movie producers don't want the audience to do :)

    As for the computers, the CD could easily outcompete the floppy and the DVD the CD, because you can make a big software and release it both on the better and the worse medium, because those folks who don't have the better one can bear swapping the worse in the drive because the drive is typically in front of them on the desk.

    But the DVD player is usually under the TV, so swapping is uncomfortable. Therefore, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray can only be adopted if the same movie can be released on DVD as well. Which means the HD or Blu version might have a better resolution or more colours or some other similar small improvement but the length and the content of the movie will be the same. 5-6 hours epic movies are still very far away, they will only be feasible when every second home has a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.
  • Captain_DX4Captain_DX4 Member Posts: 230
    It's more an issue that the new HD/BR formats will be using much higher video and audio resolutions, so the discs could potentially become more full with the same content from today. And, of course, television series published to this format will have fewer discs. *hehe*
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  • DenSterDenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    I don't care if the movie I buy is Bluray or HDDVD, as long as I don't have to purchase two machines. All I want is one machine that I can use to play all the movies that I own. Until that time I will use just simple DVDs and let everyone else buy all the other equipment.

    <edit>
    I just don't want to buy a Bluray machine, start buying movies on bluray, and discover two years from now that I can throw them away. I saw my parent go through that when they bought their VCC-2000 video recorder (which was superior to Betamax by the way). They had to throw away hundreds of dollars worth of equipment and tapes.
    </edit>
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  • Alex_ChowAlex_Chow Member Posts: 5,063
    David Singleton wrote:
    ara3n wrote:
    well betamax was also a superior product, but didn't win the war.
    ...

    The Beta vs VHS issue had nothing to do with technology. The failure of Beta was 100% due to porn. Sony refused to license pornographic material on Beta format, so the Porn companies went to VHS instead, which killed Beta.

    I know there is no connection but I'll bet that this blue ray vs ps iii will go the same way.

    Someone at Yahoo is reading what David wrote. :mrgreen:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070406/tc_ ... uggedin_dc
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  • themavethemave Member Posts: 1,058
    Neither blue-ray or hd-dvd is going to win, microsoft now offers downloaded hd movies straight to the xbox 360, no need to even buy the hd drive.

    You can now also download from amazon unbox service straight to your tivo, and of coarse the apple TV box that was just released. As soon as they lower the price of downloads to reflect the lower distrubution cost. the sooner the service will take off, leaving behind the blue-ray vs hd-dvd debate

    Coupled with the poor response the ps III is getting in the media and by the users. the PS III is not going to get to the critial mass to become the standard blue ray player.
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