Development License

relay23

Hi Guys, Can someone tell me where I should buy a developers license from? Anything I should keep in mind? Microsoft tells me I shouldn't pay enhancement on that but they can't sell it to me directly. I'd rather not get through my current VAR.

Also, I'm interested in getting some development training in-house. I'm in Chicago. Does anyone know anyone who is a GURU and does this sort of thing on a consultant basis?

Thanks

Alex_Chow

There are 2 ways to get developer license:
1. Purchase the Navision Solution Developer granule from your VAR
2. Start a VAR company, register with Microsoft, then pass the development exams.

Obviously, option one is much easier.

relay23

Thanks for the quick reply..

1. as mentioned I really don't want to get from my current VAR.. so what i'm considering is getting from a different VAR. Is there enough margin for other VAR's (for example in a different part of the country who wouldn't do the dev work for us anyway) to sell this "a la carte"? Can you or anyone else suggest a VAR? Is the price nearly the same through all VAR's?

2. I'm actually very interested in option 2 as well.. are you saying that you have to pass a navision development exam to be a VAR? How do people end up passing a navision dev exam if they haven't had the dev license required to get familiar with it? To become a VAR do you need to pay a lot of money?? I have a side consulting gig but don't really have the capital or desire to go full-force on the navision side.

themave

As an end use not a var, the price we were quoted was $8000 for the application designer license, which is required and $26000 for the developer license, so you are looking at $34000, unless our var is trying to hose us.

to be a var, you can partner with someone who has already qualified as a developer and get the license that way.

relay23

Thanks again...

So becoming a VAR - do you have to also pay a large amount of money to microsoft so you can start selling granules etc and make money off of these granules or is it just like you explain- pass a test and fill out some paperwork?

themave

Becoming a VAR cost must less the getting license as end user.

mostly paper work and meeting requirements. As a var, you also get licenses for other MS software to use to run your business.

relay23

::: scratching chin BIG TIME ::: :twisted:

Also, do you or anyone else on this list know a GURU that can come out on a consultant basis and help us on the finer points of navision development, and maybe be available on an hourly basis?

If anyone knows, i'm listening

themave

here is the partner info site at microsoft

https://partner.microsoft.com/global/productssolutions/business/40014052

Alex_Chow

relay23 wrote:

::: scratching chin BIG TIME ::: :twisted:

Also, do you or anyone else on this list know a GURU that can come out on a consultant basis and help us on the finer points of navision development, and maybe be available on an hourly basis?

If anyone knows, i'm listening

There are lot of Navision gurus available. Just post your job listing and I'm sure you'll get flooded with a bunch of applicants.

To become a VAR, I think you will need 2 people to pass the application exam, 1 person to pass the development exam, and 1 person to pass the SQL Server exam. I'm not sure this has changed recently.

Yes, you can buy the development modules from any VAR. However, in order to do that, you'll need to contact Microsoft and notify them that you're going to switch your existing VAR to another company. I'm sure most company are more than eager to sell you these development modules.

If you were to purchase it, the application builder module cost $8,000.00 and hte Solution Developer module cost $28,000.00. This is based on the price list as of 4/2005.

Hope this helps.

Shenpen

Obviously, option one is much easier.

This is not true. As 1) anybody can become a partner, there are not starting requirements 2) they give licence instantly, exams and other requirements only come later, so you will have a licence for 1 or 2 years until they recognize that you did not take the exams and take it away - all this completely for free. And actually maybe not sure they take away the licence even after 1 or 2 years if you manage to sell a project - they seem to like revenue more than rules. If they took rules seriously, we would be already out as I am the only guy here who has exams

Alex_Chow

Shenpen wrote:

Obviously, option one is much easier.

This is not true. As 1) anybody can become a partner, there are not starting requirements 2) they give licence instantly, exams and other requirements only come later, so you will have a licence for 1 or 2 years until they recognize that you did not take the exams and take it away - all this completely for free. And actually maybe not sure they take away the licence even after 1 or 2 years if you manage to sell a project - they seem to like revenue more than rules. If they took rules seriously, we would be already out as I am the only guy here who has exams

Umm.. In the US, you need 2 people to pass the application and 1 person to pass the developer. At least, that was the requirement when our company got our Navision license.

Shenpen

Really? It means you couldn't even start to sell before, because you couldn't make customized demos? WOW! That might have been a hard time from a financial viewpoint.

Alex_Chow

Yes. Fortunately, that's in place. The key they're trying to get at is they don't want people to represent Microsoft software if they don't know what they're doing.

I'm assuming this is in place for other countries as well. Can someone verify?

davmac1

You mean Dynamics - anyone can sell Exchange, SQL Server, Windows, etc. and customize it to their heart's content and have the users slam Microsoft when it does not work correctly.