Where did it go? Automation is gone :-(

oleschjoeth
oleschjoeth Member Posts: 74
edited 2006-12-19 in NAV/Navision Classic Client
What in world happend to the datatype Automation?

We have just upgraded from 3.70 to 4.0 SP2. We were about to create a new report with export to Excel and to our big surprise the Automation datatype is nowhere to be found in the variable subtype dropdown. According to the Navision C/SIDE help it should be there.

Does anybody know what is going on?

Best regards,
Ole

Answers

  • Savatage
    Savatage Member Posts: 7,142
    I could be wrong
    http://www.mibuso.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10766
    Harry Ruiz
    http://www.BiloBeauty.com
    http://www.autismspeaks.org
  • oleschjoeth
    oleschjoeth Member Posts: 74
    Thanks Harry :D

    Yes, the old stuff with automation still works.

    We just can't create new variables of that type, neither by choosing from the drop down or typing directly in the subtype field.

    My colleagues and I are a bit confused about how this could be a license issue. Do you or anybody else have more details on this?

    Best regards,
    Ole
  • Savatage
    Savatage Member Posts: 7,142
    I'm not sure just seems logical with your switch.

    But in the meantime I guess you could create the report in 3.7 & export /Import the fob into the new system. Not the best solution but at least your not stuck for the time being.
    Harry Ruiz
    http://www.BiloBeauty.com
    http://www.autismspeaks.org
  • oleschjoeth
    oleschjoeth Member Posts: 74
    Hi again Harry,

    I am sorry, but I don't understand why this seems logical after an upgrade. I have never ever heard anything about variable subtypes being dependent on licence. Can you cast a bit more light on the issue.

    Best regards,
    Ole
  • DenSter
    DenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    edited 2006-12-16
    It's a well known fact that your license determines whether you can create automation type variables [-( . What I haven't heard before though is that you can do this in one version but not in another.

    You could try keeping a copy of your 3.7 executable, and create the variables in a dummy database using that 3.7. Then you can export the objects and import them into your 4.0 system. Things you can't do is create XMLPorts and Menusuites, since those are not object types in 3.7, and certain code statements are not available in 3.7

    <edit>added smiley, to signify intended sarcasm</edit>
    Daniel Rimmelzwaan
    RIS Plus, LLC
  • themave
    themave Member Posts: 1,058
    It is a well known fact that new versions of Navision take away things you had access to in prior versions and now require a new granule to be licensed.

    You can argue with Microsoft and sometimes they will give you the license. :D
    And sometimes not
    :evil:
  • Waldo
    Waldo Member Posts: 3,412
    themave wrote:
    It is a well known fact that new versions of Navision take away things you had access to in prior versions and now require a new granule to be licensed.

    You can argue with Microsoft and sometimes they will give you the license. :D
    And sometimes not
    :evil:

    That granule hasn't been changed.

    Check if you still have following granule in your license:
    1750: C/OCX

    Eric Wauters
    MVP - Microsoft Dynamics NAV
    My blog
  • DenSter
    DenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    themave wrote:
    It is a well known fact <snip snip>
    ...yeah I read that back and saw the unintended condescending tone. Sorry about that, I was using my inner dorky sense of humor sarcastic voice when I wrote that. :mrgreen:
    Daniel Rimmelzwaan
    RIS Plus, LLC
  • Waldo
    Waldo Member Posts: 3,412
    DenSter wrote:
    themave wrote:
    It is a well known fact <snip snip>
    ...yeah I read that back and saw the unintended condescending tone. Sorry about that, I was using my inner dorky sense of humor sarcastic voice when I wrote that. :mrgreen:

    It is a well known fact that people tend to do that :lol:

    Eric Wauters
    MVP - Microsoft Dynamics NAV
    My blog
  • DenSter
    DenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    :mrgreen: very funny
    Daniel Rimmelzwaan
    RIS Plus, LLC
  • oleschjoeth
    oleschjoeth Member Posts: 74
    I enjoy sarcasm too but it's so hard read :cry:

    So when reading "It's a well known fact" makes me think: If it was well known to me I wouldn't be asking in the first place. :)
  • garak
    garak Member Posts: 3,263
    This is definitive an licence problem. Check your license.
    Do you make it right, it works too!
  • Waldo
    Waldo Member Posts: 3,412
    I only got this issue once, and it was indeed a license problem.

    Did you already check if you still have following granule in your license:
    1750: C/OCX

    :?:

    Eric Wauters
    MVP - Microsoft Dynamics NAV
    My blog
  • DenSter
    DenSter Member Posts: 8,307
    I agree you need that granule, but that wouldn't explain why they had access before and now they don't though.
    Daniel Rimmelzwaan
    RIS Plus, LLC
  • oleschjoeth
    oleschjoeth Member Posts: 74
    I've found the answer. It's a funny "feature" in the Change License functionality.

    At the time of the incident we had loaded an older version of our license for test purposes. This license doesn't include the OCX granule. We then changed the license to our current license which does have the granule. However, the Automation datatype was not to be found. :shock:

    The solution is to close the Navision client, reopen and load the license with the OCX granule. This scenario can be reproduced over and over, so it's indeed a "feature". :)

    Happy Hollidays,
    Ole
  • garak
    garak Member Posts: 3,263
    ](*,)
    Do you make it right, it works too!
  • Waldo
    Waldo Member Posts: 3,412
    When you upgrade, you have to have an upgraded license, no? May be Microsoft messed it up? :|

    Eric Wauters
    MVP - Microsoft Dynamics NAV
    My blog

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