New server for Navision - how many CALs do I need?

Denis_Petrov · 2005-12-22

Dear gurus

I need a quick advise on CALs - we have 37 users in Native Navision 3.01 (soon to be Navision 4.01) and are buying a brand new server. How many CALs for Windows 2003 server do I need in that case?

Would you please also review a quote from Dell - did I miss anything? Any feedbacks will be greately appreciated. Thank you!

Base Unit:

3.0GHz/2MB Cache, Xeon, 800MHzFront Side Bus for PowerEdge 2800 (221-7965)

Processor:

3.0GHz/2MB Cache, Xeon, 800MHzFront Side Bus, 2nd processor For PowerEdge 2800 (311-4815)

Memory:

4GB DDR2 400MHz (2X2GB), Dual Ranked DIMMs (311-3593)

Keyboard:

No Keyboard Option (310-3281)

Monitor:

No Monitor Option (320-0058)

Hard Drive:

4X73GB 15K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drive (341-1455)

Hard Drive Controller:

Embedded RAID - PERC4 EmbeddedIntegrated (341-1475)

Floppy Disk Drive:

1.44MB Floppy Drive (341-1307)

Operating System:

Windows Server 2003,Standard Edition, Includes 5 CALS (420-4042)

Mouse:

Mouse Option None (310-0024)

NIC:

2 X INTEL PRO 1000MT,COPPER GB (430-1042)

CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive:

24X IDE CD-ROM (313-2700)

Sound Card:

Tower Bezel for PE2800 (313-2699)

Speakers:

1x8 Hot Plug SCSI Hard Drive Backplane (311-4283)

Processor Cable:

50-pack of Windows Server 2003Device CALs (Standard or Enterprise) (420-4751)

Documentation Diskette:

Electronic Documentation and OpenManage CD Kit, PE2800 (310-5476)

Additional Storage Products:

2X73GB,U320,SCSI,15K w/Cage (341-1617)

Feature

MR5/MR1,Drives attached to PERC4ei - RAID 5/1 (Backplane/Media Bay) (341-1333)

Feature

Tower Chassis Orientation for PE2800 (310-5467)

Service:

Premier Enterprise Support - Complex Resolutions w/AdvancedSoftware Support - 3 Pack - Exp. 3 Years (950-0117)

Service:

Premier Enterprise Support Service Gold Welcome Letter (310-3785)

Service:

Premier Enterprise On Demand Engineer Dispatch Severity 1 Three Years (970-0237)

Service:

Type 2 Contract-Same Day 4-Hour 7x24 Parts and Labor On-site Response,Init Year (902-8700)

Service:

Type 2 Contract-Same Day 4-Hour 7x24 Parts and Labor On-site Response,Two Years (902-7142)

Service:

Premier Enterprise Support - Gold - Premium Services, 3 Years (902-7332)

Installation:

On-Site Installation Declined (900-9997)

Misc:

Redundant Power Supply,No Y-CORD for PE2800 (310-5562)

Misc:

4X73GB 15K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drive (341-1455)

SOFTWARE & ACCESSORIES

Product

Quantity

Unit Price

Total
LightPulse LP10000-M2 Fiber Channel PCI-X Host Bus Adapter (A0347062) 1 $875.00 $875.00
5M MULTI-MODE FC CABLE LC-LC,TYCO, Customer Install (310-5608) 1 $30.00 $30.00

kine · 2005-12-22

1) You did not post the actual size of your database
2) and if you are planning to move the database to MS SQL server

Denis_Petrov · 2005-12-22

The size of the db is 20Gb and we are not moving to SQL version. We will have 5x2 drives - 1x2 for the OS and 4x2 for the actual Navison db.

JulianHarper · 2005-12-22

Is it me or does 4Gb RAM seem high? How much cache can you allocate on 4.0? (I'm using 2.6 here)

Savatage · 2005-12-22

Denis Petrov wrote:

The size of the db is 20Gb and we are not moving to SQL version.

Why the Dual processors then?

themave · 2005-12-22

that machine should be fine, it has room to grow to sql later, and will handle what you have now well. Navision won't be able to take advantage of the extra processor, but the operating system will. I have an old Dell quad xeon processor system, that seems to spread the processing accross all four processors even though Navision says it doesn't take advantage of them, when I monitor performance, all four processors seem to have an equal load.

I also have Navision running on a dual processor machine way less powerful then you have here, and it runs a 20 gig Navision 2.0 database very well, supporting 25 users.

you have more then enough Win2003 cals also.

Savatage · 2005-12-22

Premier Enterprise Support Service Gold Welcome Letter

How Cute!

kriki · 2005-12-23

themave wrote:

I have an old Dell quad xeon processor system, that seems to spread the processing accross all four processors even though Navision says it doesn't take advantage of them, when I monitor performance, all four processors seem to have an equal load.

I also have Navision running on a dual processor machine way less powerful then you have here, and it runs a 20 gig Navision 2.0 database very well, supporting 25 users.

I think this is because the Navision server almost doesn't use the processor.
I have had a performance issue on 2.01 (a long time ago), and when there was a performance problem, I checked the server. The disks were rattling like crazy, but the processor was very busy at doing nothing (the average % processor use lay BELOW 10%!).

New server for Navision - how many CALs do I need?

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